Living Lund
IKEA says “do it yourself” but those guys thought putting together pieces of wood and placing it in a corner of a room was boring, so they simply decided to make the bookshelf become more vivid. So for the next time, if you need a bookshelf for all your student books, you can either get at IKEA (..boring!) or be creative and do it really “YOURSELF”!
They’re not saying for nothing that Sweden is the most creative country in the world. If you’re not sure yet, check out the Converse Canvas Experiment created by the Perfect Fools agency headquartered in Stockholm. For sure it will convince you. Aren’t you even prouder for studying in Sweden now?
From now on, we will post some interesting guest blogs from students living in other famous student towns in Sweden. For now, we have Michaela, studying Business Administration at Uppsala University.
Michaela, 23, Uppsala:
Partying in your Converse and drinking cheap coffee all day long. Dress up in suit or long dress for formal dinners and sing traditional (stupid) songs while drinking. Look preppy in classes with your MacBook Air and walk the famous catwalk in the halls of Ekonomikum, where all the knowledge magic happens. Welcome to Uppsala – the amazing student city, with a lot of contrasts. Uppsala offers you everything you ever dreamed of.
Any way, of course you don’t have to live in Uppsala to enjoy everything it offers. When visiting, there is some stuff you just can’t miss out: The nations - and then especially the mandatory club nights on Tuesdays at Sneirkes nation and Thursdays at Stockholms nation. On Thursdays you also need to drag yourself to Norrlands nation for the amazing, traditional lunch: Pea soup and pancakes. May sound like a strange mix, but it works great! (NOTE: Remember point 9. in the List of typical Swedish things)
If you’re a real party animal, keep up the good spirit and enjoy yourself at V-dala nation on Saturday evening. For recovering, you could have a nice brunch at GH nation or Stockholms nation on Sundays. Visit the great webpage www.nationsguiden.se to take advantage of all information regarding the nations.
If you ever feel to give yourself something more luxury – a good tip is then to visit the new restaurant Stationen. Here you’re able to find a nice atmosphere, with a good steak and mingle hungry people in the classy bar. As the name sounds in Swedish, the location is an old railway station, which makes it even cooler. http://www.stationen.se/. After your dinner and a nice glass of wine in the bar, you should move on to Magnussons, Plock or Oasia (or may be visit all of them?) for a nice and well-prepared drink. The first two spots are especially nice during summer times. (Oasia http://www.oasia.se/lounge1/loungeGallery.html, Plock http://www.plock.nu/content/view/24/42/).
When you’re tired after partying and when you’re broke after expensive food and drinks – drag yourself to the nice park Stadsparken, particularly in springtime. A great place for hanging out, playing games and work on your tan. Another option is to sit along the river that runs through the city core. This is the perfect spot for watching nice Swedes going crazy for spring weather. Certainly, it’s an all-day long event.
Last, but not least – after all, it is spring semester – I hope to see you all at Stockholms nation on Valborg (30th of April). This is a teaser: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NbdD3c6931E. True Uppsala tradition.
For those who already live here for a longer time and for those who will live here for a longer time - no matter what, but you will, sooner or later, confirm what’s written below =)
You know you have lived in Sweden too long when…
1. When a stranger on the street smiles at you, you assume:
a: he is drunk
b: he is insane
c: he’s an American
d: he’s all of the above
2. A friend asks about your holiday plans and you answer “Oh, I’m going to Europe!” meaning any other Western European countries outside the Nordic region.
3. You see a student taking a front row seat on the bus and wonder “Who does he think he is?”
4. Silence is fun.
5. Your coffee consumption exceeds 6 cups a day and coffee is too weak if there is less than 10 scoops per pot.
6. The first thing you do upon entering a bank/post office/chemist etc. is to look for the queue number machine.
7. You accept that you have to queue to take a queue number.
8. The reason you take the ferry to Finland is:
a: duty free vodka
b: duty free beer
c: to party hearty…no need to get off the boat in Helsinki, just turn around and do it again on the way back to Sweden.
9. You associate pea soup with Thursday. (You have to be Swedish or at least live in Sweden to get that one)
10. “No comment” becomes a conversation strategy.
11. You hear loud-talking passengers on the train. You immediately assume:
a: they are drunk
b: they are Finnish
c: they are American
d: all of the above
12. You give up on trying to find fat-free food and pile on the butter, cream and sugar.
13. You know how to fix herring in 105 different ways.
14. You eat herring in 105 different ways. (I hate herring)
15. Your front step is beginning to resemble a shoe shop.
16. You are no longer scared of Volvos and Volvo drivers
17. You know that “religious holiday” means “let’s get pissed.”
18. When you’re hungry you can peel a boiled potato like lightning.
19. You have conversations with people outside when it is –10C.
20. It no longer seems excessive to spend 1,000kr on alcohol in a single night
21. It’s acceptable to eat lunch at 11.00. (Isn’t it?)
22. You find yourself debating the politics of the social democrats.
23. You have only two facial expressions, smiling or blank.
24. You wear warm clothing when it’s 25 degrees plus in April - because it’s April.
25. You wear shorts and t-shirt when it’s barely 10 degrees in July - because it’s July.
26. You get extremely annoyed when the bus is two minutes late.
27. Your wife watches TV while you look after the kids.
28. You’ve been engaged for four years and don’t have any plans to get married.
29. You assume that anyone who apologieses after bumping into you is a tourist.
30. You get into a Mercedes taxi cab and think nothing of it.
31. You understand that when a colleague asks you out for “a drink,” it will probably be a long night with a severe hangover the next day.
32. Seeing a young woman with lit candles stuck to her head no longer disturbs you.
33. You start to differentiate between types of snow.
34. When offered a bottle of beer the first thing you look at is the alcoholic percentage.
35. You think it is normal EVERYTHING is regulated and you obey the rules voluntarily.
36. You no longer snigger when your kids ask for a Plopp when you’re out shopping.
37. Hearing the words f*ck, wh*re, shag and Swedish curses on daytime TV seems perfectly normal.
38. You expect to find the glove you dropped in February hanging on a post in June
39. Pigs say ”nerf nerf”, frogs say ”kvack, kvack” and roosters say ”kuckeliku”
40. You know that ”Extrapris” goods are cheaper, even though your English mind translates the word as ”extra price”
41.Your husband is very long instead of being very tall
42. You ringed somebody yesterday instead of you rang them.
43. You start looking at socialbidrag (welfare) less as an absolutely desperate last resort and more as a way of life.
44. You take two hour naps at work and the idea of losing your job never crosses your mind.
45. You take your shoes off when entering a house while visiting your family in Australia.
46. You think horse meat is a totally acceptable sandwich topping.
47. You are no longer offended by the fact that you are a Swedish size XL when at “home” you are a medium.
48. If a friend says that he/she would like to get together with you, you instinctively reach for your pocket calendar.
49. You own a pocket calendar.
50. You ask for a Big Mac and company outside of Sweden.
51. You say “I’m almost annoyed” when you’re as furious as humanly possible.
52. You find it completely natural that otherwise sensible people dress up in silly hats on several occasions during August while they’re eating crayfish and drinking as much vodka as they can.
53. You have no idea what “The X-files” is but you watch “Arkiv X” as soon as it’s on TV.
54. A 25 % sales tax on just about everything is no big deal.
55. VD is the boss, not something you need to get medical treatment for.
56. You can use bra, fart, and slut in the same sentence without giggling.
57. You refer to weeks by their number.
58. You don’t understand why your friend from Mississipi took offence when you referred to him as a yankee.
59. It’s perfectly normal to hear teenage girls say “****” as a swear word.
60. You have learned how to schedule your bouts of illness so you don’t get sick on weekends. Because if you do get sick on a weekend you have a hard time getting to see a doctor and you’ve wasted a weekend. It’s much better to be sick on a Monday so you can call in sick. That way you can extend your weekend!
61. You stop thinking you’re being yelled at every time you hear “Hey!”
62. It is your birthday YOU have to make the cake
63. You either run for the last pendeltåg at 1 am or choose to party on until 5 am when they start again rather than endure the horrific night bus home, as a taxi ride would require taking out a 2nd mortgage.
64. You find yourself eating bay-con for breakfast and talking about Bill Clin-ton and taking a trip to Lon-don.
65. A dime is yummy not currency
66. You know that “fan” is a swearword, and not an admirer or an air conditioner.
67. All of your conversations resemble a chess game, with each participant quietly and patiently awaiting the other to finish their turn.
68. A seven-year-old with his own mobile phone seems perfectly sensible.
69. Your wallet contains more plastic than a Hollywood superstar.
70. You can tell the difference between the different radio stations.
71. You aimlessly chat using SMS.
72. When someone asks you “Hi, how are you?” you actually take time out to explain how you are.
73. You are no longer surprised when you see full-frontal male nudity in a commercial or on TV.
74. You make fun of tourists.
75. You can pick out the real blondes from the fake blondes.
76. You learn to let the BMW’s, Audi’s, and Mercedes do whatever they want.
77. Paying $800,000 for a 3 room (living room, 2 bedrooms, 2 bathrooms, kitchen) house in a suburb of Stockholm seems cheap.
78. You accept that the best answer for a question is always “Jag vet inte” meaning “I don’t know”.
79. You think it’s acceptable that builders start banging and hammering at 5.30am.
80. You are accustomed to every other front page headline in Expresson or Aftonbladet being about some food/drink/activity being dangerous for your health.
81. You’re used to seeing dog owners picking up the dogs’ heaps in little black plastic bags.
82. You’re not surprised anymore when hearing about an old petrol station being turned into a mosque.
83. You know that twenty hundred is a year, not an hour.
84. You don’t even think about what you are saying when you are off to the shop to buy your favourite brand of cat food, and you say, “Be right back love, I’m just gonna go get some Pussi”
85. You think an hour and a half cycle on your washing machine is a “quick wash”.
86. You talk of –10C as ”10 degrees cold”, when in Australia +10C would be considered cold. And who else calls +1C, ”one degree warm”!
87. When someone asks you for “sex” you assume they mean half-a-dozen.
88. You don´t eat the jacket on your potato.
89. Nobody fights to get the “parsons nose”.
90. Your shed becomes the first stage in the recycling process and you can’t get in it for bags of paper/cardboard/bottles, refundable glass/plastic, recyclable glass/plastic/ containers/etc.
Lund’s student life is unique! Why? Because of all the different Nations offered to students. But what is a Nation?
In a nutshell….
it’s a restaurant where you can get cheap food, it’s a cafe where you can have fika or brunch, it’s a pub where you get cheap drinks, food and often live bands, it’s a club where you have dance floors, DJs and nice (cheaper) drinks, it’s a student club doing different social activities (e.g. sport) and it’s also a student housing where you can rent a room (if you are lucky). Students are working voluntarily for the nations – you should try it as you will have a lot of fun, meet new people and also get food/drinks/free entrance to the club etc.
A further speciality of Nations are „Sittnings“, which are formal events including aperitif drinks, a three course meal, snaps, wine, beer and lots of traditional Swedish songs, toasts and speeches AND a great party afterwards. Usually Sittnings have a certain theme or motto and the students are encouraged to dress accordingly. Every student in Lund should join a Sittning at least once, it’s an awesome experience! (You will read more about Sittnings in our next blog post!)
Yesterday evening we checked out Hallands Nation, which is one of our favourites here in Lund. It’s the nation for everyone without a certain music or customer profile. This Nation has one of the best and cosiest pubs here in Lund (old library style), including a great atmosphere and one of the largest beer and whisky varieties (35 beers from around the world and 24 different kinds of whiskey). The drinks are very cheap (beer SEK 25) and students also get good food (main course & desert for SEK 45), also try the Nachos (SEK 15).
The pub is open every Wednesday (Pubquiz or Championsleage night) and Friday. On Friday, Hallands Nation also turns on their dance floor and opens their famous club at 10pm, serving many different drinks, cocktails and layered shots. The club is always quite full so be there at around 9.30 / 9.45 to avoid a long queue at the entrance.
Tip: NO club entrance fee if you have dinner at the pub or if you manage to enter it before 9.30pm.
One of the most amazing parts in Sweden is the Kullaberg peninsula about an hour north of Lund and Malmö. Its beaches, cliffs and caves as well as its small villages make it a place you shouldn’t miss. But its main attraction is the Nimis – a castle on the beach made out of driftwood. And if that wasn’t crazy enough, you should know that Nimis does not stand on Swedish ground but is actually located in Ladonia, a “republic monarchy” headed by the artist Lars Endel Roger Vilks. Vilks started building Nimis in 1980 as a land art project and as many as 30.000 visitors are coming by each year and continue to work on it. But since Nimis is an illegal piece of art, authorities have threatened to tear it down many times and legal processes are still going on. As a result, Vilk proclaimed the micro-nation of Ladonia in 1996 to protect Nimis from court rulings. Today, Ladonia has its own flag (green cross on green background), its own currency (Örtug) and a postal service (though letters have to be delivered by the sender him-/herself). The 1km² big state even has a colony in Norway and is currently in war against Sweden, USA and San Marino. If you want to visit Ladonia or even become a citizen yourself, just drive up to Kullaberg, park at the end of “Himmelstorpsvägen” and follow “highway no. 1” (a small path through the wood). You can find more information on Ladonia.net.
Remember our first post about “Going for fika”? We asked you where you usually go for meeting your friends and have a cup of coffee and something sweet.
You mentioned two cafés in Lund
We tested both of them especially for you to see whether there is something special that we can inform you about. And surprisingly we got some interesting facts about those two cafés.
Café Ariman
This café is more for students and casual people. A few hard rockers and Harley fans will probably find their freedom here. The atmosphere is relaxed and cosy. It reminds us of a living room with second hand furniture, warm lights, frames and pictures hanging on the wall and unique people drinking coffee during the day and beer during the night. Prices are okay, so you pay for 0.5l of beer approximately 55kr. For serious talking you’d better sit in the back, because later the night the front turns out to be the dancing floor where nice music is played.
Lonely Planet Lund describes it as: “Head to this hip, grungy hang-out for cathedral views, strong coffee and fine cafe fare such as ciabatta, salads and burritos. It’s popular with left-wing students: think nose-rings, dreads and leisurely chess games. From September to May, DJs hit the decks on Friday and Saturday nights.“ By the way, we don’t have piercings and dreads and we still go to this café, because it’s really nice.
A last tip for your fika/lunch:
Try the brie-banana-mango chutney baguette or the avocado one. Yummie! If you are lactose intolerant, you will still be able to have your fika, since they serve soy milk- great!
Café & Le
This café is nearly for everyone. It has more the typical appearance of a café. Café Ariman has this grunge character, but Café & Le is a typical city café in one of Lund’s beautiful side streets, close to Botulfsplatsen (bus station).
The atmosphere of Café & Le is pretty nice as well. It has a bit of a retro style with the round and shiny lamps and the colourful wallpaper. The café is nice to sit in and talk with friends about previous lectures and the up-coming weekend plans. You can either eat there for lunch one of the delicious wraps, toasts or sandwiches or you can have the typical fika with a yummie strawberry muffin. If you prefer warm dishes, you can have one of their pasta types.
A special tip:
There is live music on Thursdays and open mic on Fridays and Saturdays. So when you don’t know yet what you wanna do this weekend, then read carefully now: Either u go to Airman for a coffee and later for a pre-beer and then go to Hallands Nation for a nice dinner and an after-party later that Friday night, OR you go to one of the Open Mics in Café & Le on Friday or Saturday.
Maybe we’ll meet you at Hallands Nation on Friday or on Saturday at the Café & Le? Just let us know if you wanna have a chat or a drink with us.
It is usually said that if you have never failed an exam, you haven’t really been a student. Well, it can as easily be said that you haven’t really been a student in Lund, unless you had your bike stolen (at least once). Right?
Well, if you find yourself in that situation, when you wonder what’s wrong with your memory that you can’t remember where you put your bike (…no it’s nothing wrong with you, it’s just that your bike got stolen), or if your lock is stubbornly frozen, here’s a solution: “Lundahoj i Gamla”, North of Lund C. There, you can rent a bike for a day, before you convince yourself to buy another one. The rental is only 20kr per day, 50kr per weekend. However, if you are a more determined person, www.blocket.se. If you choose one of the models below, for sure no one will dare to steal your bike, as you would recognize it in a second. So, which one would you choose?
Do you want to try a different kind of “Fika”, without going to the expensive coffee shops as usual? If so, we have the ultimate recipe for you. Meet with a couple of friends and make one of the world’s most famous strudels: “Apple Strudel”! You will love it!
It’s easy to prepare, very delicious as you can see on the pictures and for sure, you will enjoy a nice and fun afternoon with your friends. All you need is:
- 2 – 3 Apples
- 3 tablespoons of butter
- ½ Cup of Sugar (depends on how sweet you like it)
- 3 tablespoons raisons
- 2 tablespoons golden rum
- ¼ teaspoon ground cinnamon
- 1 1/2 cups breadcrumbs
- ½ cup coarsely chopped walnuts
- ½ lemon
- 1 Pack of Vanilla Sauce
- Pack of puff pastry (1 sheet)
Let’s start! Preheat your oven to about 180 °C. Heat 3 tablespoons of the butter in a large skillet over medium-high. Add the breadcrumbs and whilst stirring roast them golden.
Peel, core and cut your apples, put them into a bowl and add half of the lemon juice to it (apples are not getting brown). Then, mix the cinnamon, raisons, rum and walnuts to the apples.
Bake it for about 30-40 minutes until it is golden brown. You need to wait until the aroma fills the entire kitchen. Cool the strudel for at least 30 minutes before slicing. Serve it with a bit of whipped cream, ice cream or vanilla sauce AND a cup of tea or coffee.
Try and enjoy it – let us know how you did it.
As Reuters announced, Starbucks is planning on widening its range of drinks with alcoholic ones in a few locations in the U.S. Therefore, if you were ever wondering why Starbucks is not present in Sweden and you are feeling annoyed that you have to go to the Copenhagen airport to crave for a nice Starbucks treat, here you have one big reason. It seems that now, the company’s strategy fits even less with the Swedish way of doing things.
However, if you live in Lund and you want some additions to your usual coffee (maybe a bit of Baileys) or just beer or wine for a nice dinner with friends, here you have the opening hours of Systembolaget, the only place where you can buy alcohol in Sweden:
Systembolaget Bangatan (Bangatan 10)
Mon-Wed: 10:00-18:00
Tue-Fri: 10:00-19:00
Sat: 10:00-15:00
Systembolaget Mårtenstorget (Mårtenstorget 5)
Mon-Wed: 10:00-18:00
Tue-Fri: 10:00-19:00
Sat: 10:00-15:00
Systembolaget Nova Lund (Traktorvägen 4)
Mon-Wed: 10:00-19:00
Tue-Fri: 10:00-20:00
Sat: 10:00-15:00
We interviewed Sergio, the owner of “Lundaböcker”. (Just scroll down and see what he explained to us).
Sergio came to Lund 9 years ago directly from the U.S., though he is originally from Chile. Currently, Sergio lives together with his wife and two kids here in beautiful Lund. He studied as well at Lund University. Since he is running his own business, it is easy to guess that he has a degree in International Business and Entrepreneurship.
1. What is Lundaböcker about?
It’s a mixture of different student services. In the beginning, when Sergio started his business, Lundaböcker was just for books, but today plans have changed and Sergio offers students a great range of services, such as:
So if you need help, you can always go to Sergio, because he is brilliant in giving advice. Moreover, his shop is very cosy. Thus, it’s always worth it to visit Lundaböcker. You will find it in Kiliansgatan 11, a white pretty house, on a small corner. You won’t miss it.
Opening hours:
Mo – Fri: 10 a.m. – 5 p.m.
Sa: 11 a.m. – 2 p.m.
Website:
It’s Sunday morning, your fridge and your tummy are empty and you are still hungover??? Or do you just wanna meet your friends and have a nice day start?
We have the ultimate solution for you! Go to Hallands Nation and enjoy the delicious Sunday brunch there. It offers you a great buffet with a variety of food, like nice salads, delicious pizza, homemade bread, fruits, waffles or yummi cookies. Vegetarians will also find enough food ;) And for only SEK 40, it won’t hurt your wallet.
Tip: be there at 10.45 to avoid long queuing - brunch is served until 1pm
Hej travel addicts,
have you ever been to some places in the beautiful area of South Sweden, also called Skåne? No? Then I’m going to tell you now what places are most exciting to see. During the next weeks there will be more towns, which you should definitely visit, once you are here in Sweden.
One of those places is called Ystad. It’s actually famous for its crime series “Wallander”. Inspector Kurt Wallander of the Ystad Police is the main character in a series of detective novels by Henning Mankell. A few years after the first book was published, tourists got curious about how the city Ystad looks in reality. So the city started to become very popular for visits. Today, Kurt Wallander is one of the most famous crime series characters in Sweden. Another author and writer, next to Henning Mankell, is Stieg Larsson. He got famous for its trilogy “Millennium Series”. If you like watching Hollywood movies then you might have heard about “The Girl with the Dragon Tattoo” – this is the first of three independent parts of the trilogy.
Back to the city of Ystad. It’s a small town full of small and edgy streets crowded with interesting shops, boutiques, cafés, bars and restaurants. It is definitely worth it to go there. With the train departing from Lund you can easily reach Ystad’s central station.
The Skåne travel website:
http://www.skanetrafiken.se/Templates/StartPage.aspx?id=16125&epslanguage=EN will help you to find out, which trains you can take and at what times they are leaving. It will approximately take you an hour.
So let’s start with the more female attractive activities – Shopping. Ystad offers a lot of small, decorative shops. From Stortorget the pedestrian street goes to the next of the two main squares here, Österporttorg. Here is the right place and atmosphere to shop. It’s anyway nice to shop in Ystad, cause all the streets look exactly like 250 years ago, of course with a slight modern touch. If you are interested in old architecture, you should give Ystad a try.
In Ystad you will find common commodities and rare things as well. That’s another reason to go to Ystad. The little boutiques are perfect to make a nice and unique catch. At Hamngatan the more exclusive shops are to be found and outside the town shopping centres and small local shops with all kind of things could be found.
In order to not forget the men, I’ll let you know where you can have your typical Swedish beer J There are a lot of restaurants and bars in Ystad, almost in every corner you will find some cosy places to eat and drink. When I travelled to Ystad, I went to a nice restaurant, which is directly located at the beach. This is particularly attractive for warm summer days. The restaurant offers fresh fish and warm dishes. You will find it here:”Havsnära Fiskrökeri” in Segelgatan 17. You can as well check the website: www.havsnara.com.
Ystad refers to the Österlen Region, which is the southeast part of Skåne, as well known for its nice sandy beaches. For a trip in summer, Ystad is definitely a must! Some other attractions or cultural activities so to speak, is for example, a guided tour with stops at all the places, which are shown during the Wallander crime series. For all who enjoy Henning Mankell´s detective stories about chief inspector Kurt Wallander, there is the chance to get on Wallander’s spår (to be on Wallander’s tracks). For this you should contact the Ystad Tourist Office.
Once you decided to visit Ystad, you probably gonna ask youself how to get around in this city. Don’t worry, Ystad is a tiny town. You could easily walk around or why not rent a bike?
Are you ready for Ystad? If you have any questions what else you could do in Ystad, just use our Ask us anything option or post your comments below this post.
Have fun in Ystad!
Lund, Sweden, 55°42′N 13°12′E, Thursday, 7.30 a.m., a bike and a girl, unfortunately called Lena Fäustle (you will soon know why)!
This blog is here to help you to fashion your free time and it should give you some advice. So read this! Otherwise serious injuries are the result, so no simulation, please!
If you once decided to come to Lund and this in winter, here comes some information what definitely should be avoided, although all Swedes are doing it:
DON’T GO BY BIKE IN WINTER, especially when you are not sure whether there is black ice and don’t even think about weighing the pros and cons to go by bike to uni-just don’t go. If your little devil on the right shoulder nevertheless tells you, you should definitely go by bike, cause it’s just cheaper and you are already late anyway, then…this was the wrong decision, because then you will honestly end up having almost a broken arm, bruises everywhere, not being able to walk anymore due to hip contusions, knee abrasions and a deformed mac book and bike basket- Skål!
As marketers we cannot escape the tendency to observe and analyze everything. After being in Sweden for a while, we have formed an idea about the Swedes. We are not saying it is truly universal, but it is applicable in at least 85% of the cases. So that you know what to expect when coming to Lund, here comes a short portrait:
They wear very funny socks, different patterns, even with more elegant outfits.
Even if the nations open from 10p.m to 2a.m, the Swedes always go there around 12a.m, after pre-partying.
When partying, talk to them within the first hour of the event, as you may not understand each other so easily after that.
Do not expect guys to make the first move, in Sweden this seems to be the girls’ task.
Regardless their age, they always enjoy going to the gym.
They love decorating their homes with candles. Incurable romantic maybe?
The guys wear tighter clothes than the girls.
Not so open with the international students. It takes a while until they engage in an open conversation, but it’s still worth to get to know them.
What do you think we missed?
